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Out of Office podcast features interview with former president of The Wall Street Journal


Join Pugpig co-founder Jonny Kaldor in this Out of Office podcast series as he speaks with interesting people in media in New York, London and beyond in order to try and find out what makes them tick. 

In this episode, Jonny and Katie Vanneck-Smith take a walk in the fields of the South Downs near her home in Slindon, where they started by talking about her career at News Corp from her early days at The Times to her move to New York where she became president of The Wall Street Journal. They talk about how she fell in love with journalism, what it is like working for Rupert Murdoch, how, in 2010 built one of the world’s first paid news websites for The Times, and how she helped grow The Wall Street Journal subscriber base to 3 million readers by April 2019.

The following episode of the Out of Office podcast covers the creation of Tortoise Media and how she and co-founder James Harding built a completely different newsroom, in the form of a membership business built around slow news, open journalism and live and digital events.

The Out of Office podcast from Pugpig features interesting people in media and covers everything from how they started out, what they love and hate about publishing and the many forces that are fundamentally changing our industry landscape from right under our feet. The Out of Office podcast was selected by as one of the top journalism podcasts to get you through the pandemic.  The podcast is available on all major podcast players.

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